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http://ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff243768.htm

http://www.my3cents.com/showReview.cgi?id=20966

read skype billing scams, It costs more than normal phone cards or long distance service.

PRICE JAKCING, WRONG BILLS, RANDOM AND WRONG USAGE IS REGULAR FEUTURE.
NO DOUBT QUALITY OF VOICE IS GOOD.

BEWARE OF SKYPE BILLING WHILE PAYING, CHECK YOUR MINUTES USAGE, RATES AND MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION, YOU WILL FIND IT DISASTER AND SCANDAL.

AFTER I REPORTED THIS MATTER ON CONSUMER FORUM, THEY LOCKED MY BALANCE.

BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE, SKYPE IS SCANDAL.

THEIR PC TO PC FUNCTION IS FINE, REST IS SCANDAL. CHECK YOUR BILLS WHEN YOU PAY THEM FOR NEXT CYCLE. THEY TAKE AWAY YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.

DEATAILS OF HOW SKYPE CHEAT CUSTOMERS

SKYPE IS TOTAL SCAM BEWARE: PRICE HIJACKING, ILLEGALLY CHARGING AMOUNTS, WRONG BILLING..... BEWARE OF SKYPE SCAM.

I have been using skype often for making pc to landline calls.

I was very happy with quality of service . I used to charge 10 $ every time. Never cared to check account thinking every thing would be okay. But off late when I saw even for 5 minutes local north american call over 0.25 $ or more is deducted,or 2 minutes were charged as 0.11$ without any mathematical basis.

I got suspicious and started traceing last one month account, i found total random charges with wrong amount, hijacked price with no mathematical basis. ( time multipled by rate/minute) .

In many instaces per minute charges were 0.10 $ or even higher to the fancy of skype management-(FYI published price is 0.021$ per minute)

I immediately tried to contact them , but there was no phone or emails. Only solution was to send them mail by online form.
Fortunate enough to get reply after 4 days which was not an answer to my complaint, rather they just send me a link to check FAQ.(Misleading practice)

I was irritated with their response. Again I sent them email specifying issue of price jacking and over charging. Till today in last 2 weeks there is no second response from them.

Now I feel(confirm) Skype cheat customers with random charges,with jacked prices/minute.They Never respond to complaint or resolve anything. Price we eventually pay is much higher than local reliable services or phone cards.
lukman_chowdhury
first, both links you posted are to your own posts, exact same thing, so they serve no purpose whatsoever, i dont see why you posted the link... unless you are trying to decieve, because at first glance it looks like maybe you have links to supporting documents found in other sites... but then on clicking the links it is obvious we're just looking at ur posts again.

second, posting with caps online is considered the equivalent of shouting. if ur gonna shout at skype staff, fair enough, they get paid at the end of the day... ok not so fair anyway, no one should have to put up with childish shouting, employee or not. however, most people reading this are not skype staff, and i for one dont appreciate being shouted at. SO QUIT SHOUTING

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BEWARE OF SKYPE BILLING WHILE PAYING, CHECK YOUR MINUTES USAGE, RATES AND MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION,


beware of any billing.

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Never cared to check account


and hence you take no blame? checking is your own responsibility

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But off late when I saw even for 5 minutes local north american call over 0.25 $ or more is deducted,or 2 minutes were charged as 0.11$ without any mathematical basis.


firstly, i'd advise you to check again. also post a screenshot of your calls history and we all might be able to help you identify if there was any error, it may be u are being charged for services you were unaware of, such as call forwarding.

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i found total random charges with wrong amount,


skype documents all charges on your account page. it is your responsibility to check that. also skype offers refunds where it has made an error. as opposed to accusing them of price jacking just tell them tey have made an error and you want a reply. if you accuse them of something like price jacking, they will only reply defensively, you are giving them room to waste time. instead, tell them they have made an error, list all the errors with times and dates, and demand a refund... dont give them opportunities to write back with excuses... this way they only have two options, one is to refund you the other is to say we did not make a mistake... which actually they cant say if you have everything included your call history well documented.

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hijacked price


what does that mean? jacked up prices? skype cearly says you should check the rates page and your account page regularly, i believe the trems and conditions say they are free to increase prices but you are entitled to demand a refund of remaining credits you do not agree to the their increases. also are you aware of the connection fee which was advertised like a month in advance?

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with no mathematical basis. ( time multipled by rate/minute) .


actually, it's cost = (time rounded up to the next whole minute * rate per minute) + connection fee

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Fortunate enough to get reply after 4 days which was not an answer to my complaint, rather they just send me a link to check FAQ.


cant disagree with you there... they do mess around quite a bit with that

(see skype, i was doing so well up untill this point... plz fix up the support request replies so that i can put up good cases)

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Price we eventually pay is much higher than local reliable services or phone cards.


hence im not a paying customer tongueout.png
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quote by choudhary

skype documents all charges on your account page. it is your responsibility to check that. also skype offers refunds where it has made an error. as opposed to accusing them of price jacking just tell them tey have made an error and you want a reply. if you accuse them of something like price jacking, they will only reply defensively, you are giving them room to waste time. instead, tell them they have made an error, list all the errors with times and dates, and demand a refund... dont give them opportunities to write back with excuses... this way they only have two options, one is to refund you the other is to say we did not make a mistake... which actually they cant say if you have everything included your call history well documented.



CONTACT WHO, DO THEY HAVE ANY CONTACT DETAILS OR ANY HUMAN FACTOR? no.png

All that I got is a regular link. devil.png

After posting my complaint on various consumer forums today after many days I got same link again.

Do you think this has to be response?

Ok, if you think skype can be contacted, then give me their contact details. Estonia/netherlands, do you know which street or hamlet they are hiding?

Even if you ask those high school drop out CSR joker's name or if U call for dating, she would send you a link of FAQ LOL bigsmile.png

SKYPE CHAT FUNCTION IS FINE, REST IS SCAM,
SEE BELOW JACKED USAGE, I AM POSTING ONE SAMPLE


This call was only 4:58 minutes as per call history but I was charged for 11:57 minutes.
I made couple of test calls to see their arbitrary billing.

Skype is really scam and they cheat you by all means.


Mar 29 03:52 +1780xxxxxxx Canada Call $0.021 11:57 $0.291

As per this I paid 0.05/minute which is contrary to their published price of 0.021.

I have sent so many mails on their cusotmer support, but the reply and support was to follow this link like a fool:

https://secure.skype.com/store/myaccount/calls.html

BEWARE OF SKYPE, BEWARE BEWARE, SKYPE IS THIEF HIDING IN SOME SMALL CITY OR VILLAGE OF EUROPE.
IF THEY ARE IN AMERICA, THEY CANNOT EVEN LAST FOR A DAY.

SKYPE CUSTOMER SUPPORT= AN AUTOMATED LINK OR MANUAL EMAIL SENT BY HIGH SCHOOL DROP OUT [b] CSRs whose job is to make sure email is replied within four days, no matter it is relevant or not.
lukman_chowdhury
please stick to http://forum.skype.com/index.php?act=ST&am...t=0#entry383344

no point talking in two threads, i will not be looking in this anymore, you can post in the link above and i will reply there.

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quote by choudhary


if ur going to refer to me by surname, at least spell it correctly

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All that I got is a regular link.


all that you sent was a confused e-mail (so it appears) what more were they supposed to send? you are unclear about what the problem is (i have posted in the other thread, do read it carefully)

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Do you think this has to be response?


yes, because you keep talking about hidden and jacked charges. this is not the case. what you are disputing, or attempting to dispute is call lengths. the two although related, are very different matters.

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Ok, if you think skype can be contacted, then give me their contact details. Estonia/netherlands, do you know which street or hamlet they are hiding?


use the online support request form like everyone else.

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Even if you ask those high school drop out CSR joker's name or if U call for dating, she would send you a link of FAQ LOL


actually no. u'd be surprised at how many people do not know the faq exists.

and please stop using the term "as per".
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Lukman are you a full time grammer teacher or part time.?
I am not here to argue or ponder,

Skype has ripped not only me, they have done with many people. And every skype customer must know about this SCAM, devil.png

Neither I am regular contributor on this forum, Nor I am intersted in having any feedback or lessons from other users. My interest here is just to warn people about the skype billing scandal who loose money in rip off practices .

For your convenience i am posting the link below, there is no need for you to go through each and every word of mine or grammer.

Don't have habit of underestimating as you have tonnes of time to spend on this forums, that doesn't make you equally wise or intelligent elsewhere.

There is a life beyond being masters of this forum too.

Well you can request moderators to delete the posts. nerd.png

My intention was to bring this scam to the people who may get cheated. Rest I know how to handle skype. I am capable and enough equipped to take them to court if so required. So don't advocate me atleast.

BTW do you come from India or Bangladesh. there are Choudharys ,roy choudhariy etc if I am not mistaken.

Any way no hard feelings, but my suggestion to U, don;t insult people or skype complainant's just becuase you are working too hard on this forum . No doubt your intelligence is uncomparable on this forum, but not sure how good you fare outside this forum. bigsmile.png, else you woudn't be having so much time to post couple of thousand posts. wink.png

Believe me I am not writing to insult you, but the way you treat members with your intelligence is unwarranted.

Good luck

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You are allowed to do spell check , syntax errors, correction of grammer.
lukman_chowdhury
[quote]Lukman are you a full time grammer teacher or part time.?[/quote]

first, when you have a question, you use a questionmark. not a full stop and a question.....

"Lukman are you a full time grammar teacher or part time?"

oh please also check spelling of "grammer" i think it's meant to be grammar

secondly, am not a grammar teacher at all, i teach mathematics and some of the sciences.

[quote]Skype has ripped not only me, they have done with many people. And every skype customer must know about this SCAM, devil.png [/quote]

fair enough, however, just as news is limited on tv to specific time slots, or to specific channels, your posts too need to be. it would be very silly regardless of importance to broadcast the news on a childrens cartoon channel, for one thing it is unfair to the kids... likewise, limit your posts to relevant threads, if you must post in someone elses, do so only if their problem is resolved, doing so otherwise is against forum rules, regardless of how important your news is, even if world war 3 started i would say the same thing to the poster. and also there is no need to double post. saying it once was enough

[quote]Neither I am regular contributor on this forum, Nor I am intersted in having any feedback or lessons from other users.[/quote]

if you weren't interested in knowing why you were being charged why did you make the false claim that the charging method followed no mathematical logic? do not make false claims if you do not wish to engage in discussion and have your claims torn apart.

[quote]My interest here is just to warn people about the skype billing scandal who loose money in rip off practices .[/quote]

that is fair, however, your interests seem to include lies. my interest in the forums is to try and keep things accurate, factual and enjoyable

[quote]For your convenience i am posting the link below, there is no need for you to go through each and every word of mine or grammer.
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when exactly did i do this? when did i criticise your grammar? i simply demanded you spell my second name correctly

[quote]you have tonnes of time to spend on this forums, that doesn't make you equally wise or intelligent elsewhere.
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actually, if you look at my actual posts on the forums you will find they show an insight into my offline life, which is full of colour and thought, and so it might suggest intelligence

[quote]There is a life beyond being masters of this forum too.[/quote]

indeed, and i have a great one. for example i was on tv last night, all be it a dot on the screen in the middle of all the audience... but i was there, and it was fun, was so very excited, watched a great celebraty quiz show. and there's so much more i could list endlessly. instead i'd say feel free to pm me and i'll give u a link to my "blog" styled thread in another forum. u'll enjoy reading it

[quote]Well you can request moderators to delete the posts. nerd.png [/quote]

now why would i waste my time trying to clean up your mess? you made the multiple posts... in other peoples threads and the double posts... you can ask them.

besides i dont think the mods would appreciate me posting them a list of threads and posts i think should be deleted, would u like someone posting u a list of extra work that may or may not already be deleted by the time u read it?

[quote]Rest I know how to handle skype. I am capable and enough equipped to take them to court if so required.[/quote]

with unfounded and unresearched accusations i'd say you'd waste money and resources and any court would be throwing the case out and ask you to pay the courts fees. your accusations here on the fourms were based on nothing but lack of knowledge on your part, i have no doubt when you e-mailed skype you e-mailed with just as much lack of knowledge. did you know about the connection fee? i think not... but it is noted on the calls history page in your skype.com account.

[quote]BTW do you come from India or Bangladesh. there are Choudharys ,roy choudhariy etc if I am not mistaken.[/quote]

i come from bangladesh, and yes the name is spelt in many ways, however, again if you do your research you'd find the name was originally a title from the time when bangladesh was a part of india, and as such my family descends from such title holders, not even very long back, bangladesh has only been independent for about 30 years or so, and as opposed to many of the other chowdhury's, who weren't chowdhurys through title, my family's name has a lil history behind it. however, the point was, my name is written by my posts and spelt properly, so there was no excuse for you to spell it incorrectly, repeatedly


[quote]Any way no hard feelings, but my suggestion to U, don;t insult people or skype complainant's just becuase you are working too hard on this forum .[/quote]

there never were hard feelings from my part and there never will be. i do not insult people or the complaints because of my input on the forums... instead, please read again and you will find it to the be case, that i take false claims and help those that make them see where they are going wrong... but some people never accept they were wrong.

[quote]but not sure how good you fare outside this forum. bigsmile.png [/quote]

cv's on my website wink.png links are in my profile page

[quote]else you woudn't be having so much time to post couple of thousand posts. wink.png [/quote]

maybe i am so good (or so lazy) at the things i do elsewhere, that i have time to post on the forums and still enjoy my offline life and also play online games for several hours throughout the day

[quote]Believe me I am not writing to insult you, but the way you treat members with your intelligence is unwarranted.[/quote]

i dont feel insulted, even if you were insulting me, it's only forums, i never take it personally, whats in the forum stays in the forum when i close my browser, no harm done. however, i dont think i insult people without wareant, and if you think this is insulting, i'd love to invite you to few sites where people really do insult.

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Good luck
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thank you, and you too in getting the problem resolved

[quote]You are allowed to do spell check , syntax errors, correction of grammer.[/quote] giggle.png giggle.png
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I will be back to see you when you finish your 20000 posts on this forum
till then good luck, You have enough time to rant, keep helping people in your style.

I salute your great social work.
lukman_chowdhury
lol, 20000 worried.png thats a very high number.

thanks, and i hope you will return before then, possibly with a post saying skype has sorted things out for you.

good luck and take care.

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QUOTE(lukman_chowdhury @ Sat Apr 14 2007, 23:14) [snapback]383413[/snapback]



thanks, and i hope you will return before then, possibly with a post saying skype has sorted things out for you.

good luck and take care.


How do you know if you are not working for Skype? Is this a big secret tongueout.png
To me it sounds like Great Indian gandhi Bofors kickback, tongueout.png
or you are a forecaster working for weather department..
What ever it is I am not too serious about my money involved, but I am serious about their poor ethics and working style where 100000 of people like me are involved.

NO ADDRESS, NO LOCATION, NO PHONE, NO FAX-- JUST AN ONLINE SCAM....where tonnes of dollars, euros are collected. Even if a single person loose meagre 1$ a day when it comes to 1 million people it is huge amount. Such scams are worth to be noted.

What difference it makes when a nigerian does lottery or bank deposit scam, and a corporate company does in fine prints with disclaimers and hidden charges plus unethical practices?

It is like a sales man selling addictive drugs or poison and asking you to sign disclaimers for any consequences.
lukman_chowdhury
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How do you know if you are not working for Skype?


would i knock their customer services every opportunity i get if i were working for them? would i say they were misleading customers on several occassions? these are all evident in my posting history if you care to look... research is a great tool, use it wisely, it can tell you a lot about a person.

besides, it should not matter whether or not a person works for skype where a discussion is involved (i.e. u have said it's the voice you need, not the money) for the most important thing is what is said and discussed, so actually employment by skype is irrelevant for the nature of this discussion

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sounds like Great Indian gandhi Bofors kickback

i have no idea what that means

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you are a forecaster working for weather department

i have no idea how you got to that one.

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NO ADDRESS, NO LOCATION

again, research will get you far. am sure if you try you can find an address

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What difference it makes when a nigerian does lottery or bank deposit scam, and a corporate company does in fine prints with disclaimers and hidden charges plus unethical practices?


by the way, the "nigerian scam" is not called the nigerian 419 scam because it is run by nigerians, but so called because of some relevant law in nigeria... infact i dont even think most people doing it today are nigerian.

but anyway, the difference is the companies are doing their dodgy acts legaly. just as governments can murder people legaly, but civilians cant (well in some places they can).

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It is like a sales man selling addictive drugs or poison and asking you to sign disclaimers for any consequences.


that too is done legaly all over the world. recently a scientist extracted the element in chillis that make them hot, and sold them in the pure form.... even a tiny speck on the tounge makes it swell... too much can cause death.. and so to buy it you had to sign a disclaimer... true story.
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