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PeterSvP
Hi guys, I am a long skype user - i remember it from a version 1.1, when the icon was still red.
As a long skype user, I updated my skype over and over again.

My opinion is that skype starts to be worse and worse! Version 1.3 was 4MB, ok, varsion 3 - 20MB! But not and this. Did you fix the bugs? I think - No. When you fix a bug, another bugs instantly appears. And this seems to be valid for every new update or version. For example, skype 1.3 taken me about 1% proccessor time and I was able to play a games and talk with a friend at the same time. Now, version 3.0 takes ALL my processor while only chat.... WHY is this? You must seriously optimize the skype OR release a lite version, which have only chat, multichat and calls and nothing other. This heavy 20 meg. version is seriously slow! This starts to annoy me. At this moment in my skype there are several bugs (3.1.0.150): The file transfer dialogs did not remember the checkbox "close after transfer complete", they also do NOT show the filesize now! In my older version they did. Also I detected that ever with turned ON notification option, the "someone has just logged in" message never appears.... Why really are these bugs? When I will see a 4MB version on skype again? SEE - gizmo - 3mb, Y! Messenger - about 6 MB at last, ICQ - 3-4 MB, skype - 20MB! Why is this?
AND WHY you do NOT allow we to continue using skype 1.3? Or 2.0? Think seriously about fixing these bugs and please do not forget that these japanese hackers reverse engineered your application and customized skype clients now exist. And what about releasing a component for delphi or Cppbuilder which allows ourselves to use skype protocol and to make customized client? Also, why you do not compress the "skype.exe"? - openning it even with notepad shows portions of C++builder source code?

sorry for that long post but I hope that skype will be really fixed in the future.

I am not mentioning the 3.2 beta, but this new audio codec must be disabled ar to be able to be disabled!
Jamie Watson
I have been wanting to post something very similar to this for quite some time now. Don't get me wrong, I don't want this to turn into a Skype-bashing fest, but I think some experienced Skype USERS need to speak up, because things seem to be moving in the wrong direction.

In a nutshell, what appears to be happening is that Skype is changing from an efficient program developed by a fairly small group of programmers, to a bloated mess developed by a very large committee. It has added feature after feature over the past few releases, and it has gotten larger, more demanding of the computer, and has developed a long list of strange, intermittent problems. How many people on here have said "I went back to version 2.5 (or whatever) and everything works fine now"?

To be fair, it is very unfortunate that at exactly the same time that this "creeping featurism" started causing problems with Skype, Logitech released new camera drivers which were horribly broken, and of course the symptoms of those showed up when they were used with Skype. But that doesn't change the fact that thing which used to work no longer do, and things that don't work in version 3.x do work if you reinstall 2.5.

For the moment, there is still a lot of loyalty to Skype, and a lot of people are hanging on, and struggling with the new versions. But that loyalty will wear out sooner rather than later, and once they're gone, it will be extremely difficult to get them back. Of course, paying customers with Skype subscription plans are likely to be the first to go, because money talks much louder than loyalty...

It would be really nice to see even an unofficial statement from the Skype development team about this, at least indicating if they expect the 20Mb, or 100Mb, or whatever size the current version is, to be the "norm" for future versions, stating whether they expect to continue development with 90% of their effort going to adding new "features" and 10% to actually fixing things and producing a product that works reliably and doesn't consume every ounce of available resources on the computer.

Just my two cents worth... I like Skype, and I would like to see it stay around and be successful, but that is not the direction it is moving in right now.
Raul Liive
Thank you very much for your feedback.

If you see any problems then please let us know about them as if anybody does not report them then we do not know if there is a problem.

Please report all problems in this forum as one issue per thread or then in our public issue tracker Jira (https://developer.skype.com/jira/).

About new audio codec, why you need opportunity to disable it, so you have problems with it?

Why size of installer annoys you so much?

We are constantly working on improving Skype usability and stability.

All constructive feedback is more than welcomed.
markh8
I do think the same way as the two previous posts. Today things really have to be efficient and lean. Just see the success of Firefox for example (Netscape & Co. were to bloated).

Whatever approach to be taken (flexible loading of needed modules on demand etc.) to regain a minimum of memory consumption and provide users with a quick experience when running Skype in the background all the time.
Калин
What annoys me most is that there are bugs which Skype Staff are aware of and they are still not fixed. And yes Raul I know that it takes time to fix those bugs but how much time do you need exactly (an year or so)?!. For example: When Skype 2.5 came out one of the new features* then was the improved updates system. How much time do you need to fix the "check for updates" bug? That bug is known for quite a while. I think that if you're not willing to fix it (because I read it has been classified as a low priority bug) you can at least remove that feature. Or you can remove it temporary to spare installation file MBs and put it back in when it's fixed and working. According to me there's no need to keep features that are currently not working.
And there are more bugs which are known for quite a while and are still not fixed. worried.png Let's hope that changes soon.
Regards!
lukman_chowdhury
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if anybody does not report them then we do not know if there is a problem.
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All constructive feedback is more than welcomed.


interesting topic going on.

i do appreciate that skype tests their software before making the final releases avaliable to public. (personally i download all the latest public betas as i dont really mind the bugs). however, i do find that more frequently, the public final releases have more bugs than one would expect... surely it is the task of the skype testers and not the public to check for and report these bugs. that said though, one needs to remember that skype users have a range of different setups, and it would not be practical for skype to check through every possible setup combination.

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there are bugs which Skype Staff are aware of and they are still not fixed......bug is known for quite a while. ...there are more bugs which are known for quite a while and are still not fixed.


that is a concern i share. there appear to be many bugs, for example, online contacts appearing constantly as offline. or chat messages never going through despite contacts being online, which have been known for very very long periods of time. considering skype is a communications software, surely these should be high priority... maybe not the highest as chat is not voip... but chat is communications, and so i'd say it should be pretty high. at present these bugs go on being reported... i've not seen any definate fixes for them, and no new update seems to fix them for good.

i sincerly hope skype can focus on it's primary market, voip, and leave addon's and extras to the side until that market is fully functional.

skypein numbers not working, numbers already in use by complete strangers being given to customers, voicemail not working, products not being delivered, orders cancelled, orders double charged, accounts randomly blocked (few days after successful purchase and use)... all quite significant bugs.

happy skyping all.
utomo
I agree with the report in here.

Skype need to Concentrate on Fixing BUGs First, and then adding Features. (dont do the opposite)
Skype need to reduce the memory usage. Temporary they can disabled the skypePM as default. but we need better solutions later (check the coding and fix the bugs).

And also try to fix bugs which annony many user and not yet taken care for long time.

Just my 2c
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