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Moldarin
Hi,

When will Skype video calling be available for Linux?

I used to use Mac OS and they just got the video preview version. So where is the Linux video preview (or final) version?
wolfey.si
QUOTE(Moldarin @ Mon Sep 4 2006, 16:19) [snapback]294444[/snapback]

Hi,

When will Skype video calling be available for Linux?

I used to use Mac OS and they just got the video preview version. So where is the Linux video preview (or final) version?


I just posted another topic with same content.... angry.png Anyway I am interested in video under linux too. wasntme.png
wolfey.si
I found following link:
Skype Linux Blog

QUOTE
Oh, and a recent poll of Linux users have shown us three most often requested features, they are:

1. Video
2. Video
3. Video

We’re doing our best to implement it, but I think it is not going to be included in 1.3 series, so stop asking, cross fingers, and wait for 1.4 release wink.png


So let's wait patiently or something angry.png angry.png angry.png angry.png
sullen
QUOTE(Moldarin @ Mon Sep 4 2006, 16:19) [snapback]294444[/snapback]

Hi,

When will Skype video calling be available for Linux?

I used to use Mac OS and they just got the video preview version. So where is the Linux video preview (or final) version?


Yep, Video, Video, Video

Video chat in linux makes Skype UNIQUE IM of all
Sera
I too eagarly expecting Video call in Linux

Sera
Whoo
For Video and sound.. I'm using openwengo ...
Perhaps It's the best way for the moment... to use Video !
StanS
"Stop Asking" ??? That's an interesting reply. Guess will return to Instant Messengers.
Whoo
Skype is available for Mac User ... so the Linux Beta version is near, Isn't it ?

....



deltatux
don't get you hopes up that fast. Video isn't that easy to implement. Especially since there's two APIs that people have to consider.

There's Video4Linux 1 (V4L) and Video4Linux 2 (V4L2).

The thing is, the first version has most of the webcam drivers, however, the second one is clearly better but barely has any drivers.

The developers have to choose which one to choose. Many developers are starting to do the transition from V4L to V4L2, so there's that problem about future implements.

deltatux
Focx
I'd also like to see Video smile.png
tekhawk2000
deltatux makes a vary good point on why it wont be fun for the devs to make this happen

but when they do i hope they put webcams that are known to work with linux on the web store to save the linux newbies some time headaches and questions

lol

i wonder if the mac version is in QT or not
Whoo
The new API for video4linux, is V4L2 ... so I'm thinking that the V4L2 should be used.
(It could be a minimum requirement, with a list of supported webcams )
V4l2 is an universal interface to deal with webcams.
So I don't understand 'the future problem'.Skype should implement V4L2 correctly isn't it ?

I'm sure that there is some GPL software who can provide some clues smile.png
grocanar
QUOTE(Whoo @ Wed Nov 29 2006, 18:15) [snapback]325376[/snapback]

The new API for video4linux, is V4L2 ... so I'm thinking that the V4L2 should be used.
(It could be a minimum requirement, with a list of supported webcams )
V4l2 is an universal interface to deal with webcams.
So I don't understand 'the future problem'.Skype should implement V4L2 correctly isn't it ?

I'm sure that there is some GPL software who can provide some clues smile.png


I go agree
numerous im linux client does that with proprietary protocols they don't know

it should'nt be that hard for people who knows exactly the protocols

i guess it s just not a priority for skype to have a video version for linux.

the problemes is this one
i m trying to use openwengo as the webcam work perfectly but my contacts are on skype sadsmile.png

then i m trapped

Mohjive
QUOTE(deltatux @ Sun Nov 5 2006, 21:47) [snapback]316120[/snapback]

don't get you hopes up that fast. Video isn't that easy to implement. Especially since there's two APIs that people have to consider.

There's Video4Linux 1 (V4L) and Video4Linux 2 (V4L2).

The thing is, the first version has most of the webcam drivers, however, the second one is clearly better but barely has any drivers.

The developers have to choose which one to choose. Many developers are starting to do the transition from V4L to V4L2, so there's that problem about future implements.

deltatux

Just choose one and get on with it!
I did a project (worth 7.5 ECTS = 5 weeks) for my school, where I, among other things implemented a gui for two different cameras using v4l, c++ and fltk. And the camera part was not even a third of the work. I've never done any advanced c++ programming before that. How hard can it be for professionals?
tekhawk2000
here is an idea

why doesnt someone right a program that uses the skype api

the program would basicly be just a simple ip to ip webcam enough people on the linux circut start using it maybe they will get unlazy and make an offical one espesally if you lisense the ip to ip webcam in a way that they can steal it lol
Mohjive
That's an idea. If I had some time I'd maybe give it a try. But never that I'd place it under any non free (as in speech) license. Skype/Ebay has done nothing, that I know of, to help the open community. It leaves them with a choice to either use the lib and open their source or write their own.
patrick295767
QUOTE(Mohjive @ Wed Dec 6 2006, 18:33) [snapback]327987[/snapback]

That's an idea. If I had some time I'd maybe give it a try. But never that I'd place it under any non free (as in speech) license. Skype/Ebay has done nothing, that I know of, to help the open community. It leaves them with a choice to either use the lib and open their source or write their own.


The development via v4l or v4l2 could maybe consider in their reflexion that :
ekiga, amsn, kopete .... have webcam support even if it wasnt easy 1-2 years ago,
let s remind us this too
Cross_mr
So just wondering, this was first asked about 4 months ago, has anyone heard anything else on when this is going to happen? This is the only thing holding me back from switching over my media center PC from Windows to Linux.
Mark_D
I wonder why Skype is not going Java? Qnext runs on java and runs on almost every platform (with video support!). It would save skype a lot of proprietary development and would only need one codebase....
sede
We are working mostly in Linux, and before we advised Skype to many, because we have a well attended forum, and the people wanted also to speak each other. Since the Skype Video for Linux is not developing (maybe cannot hire a single Linux programmer?), and concurrent solutions (WengoPhone, Gizmo, QNext, AMSN, Kopete, etc) all becoming better we don't advise it anymore. In Kopete we are signing up width 7 different accounts in the same time created for different purposes (helpdesks or private) or different messenger systems, while in skype we can use only one... Me and my wife have to use a common account... no.png
MeTheGeek
Hi guys.

I feel your pain.

I just posted an article lightly poking at skype, specially for this poor support for linux.
maclenin
QUOTE(MeTheGeek @ Fri Mar 30 2007, 16:21) [snapback]378250[/snapback]

Hi guys.

I feel your pain.

I just posted an article lightly poking at skype, specially for this poor support for linux.


Any word from Skype, itself, on this issue?
DJCS
QUOTE(maclenin @ Sun Apr 1 2007, 05:48) [snapback]378693[/snapback]

Any word from Skype, itself, on this issue?


hahahahaha

i am still awaiting a real response for a support request that i put in a couple of months ago.

DJ
MeTheGeek
QUOTE(maclenin @ Sun Apr 1 2007, 05:48) [snapback]378693[/snapback]

Any word from Skype, itself, on this issue?


This is the last official word on Skype for Linux:
http://share.skype.com/sites/linux/

I guess.

salyavin
Sadly it appears wengophone is the only cross platform program I know that does video chat, phone calls, and SMS. It also has cheaper phone rates than Skype. As the Skype user base is so large and I can't get language exchange partners and friends off of it so I hope Skype gets video support soon as well as skypecast support.
Jaqui
QUOTE(salyavin @ Fri Apr 6 2007, 23:12) [snapback]380728[/snapback]

Sadly it appears wengophone is the only cross platform program I know that does video chat, phone calls, and SMS. It also has cheaper phone rates than Skype. As the Skype user base is so large and I can't get language exchange partners and friends off of it so I hope Skype gets video support soon as well as skypecast support.


not quite, Ekigasoftphone has full video chat support. It was formerly known as Gnomemeeting.
It will connect to every client but Skype, because of Skype's proprietary protocols.

further, with current distros, plug a usb web cam in and the distro will symlink ekiga on the desktop, with full video chat configuration already done.
[ tested with 4 different webcams, Logitech, two off brands I can't remember the names of and a Creative [ yes, the same as the "Sound Blaster" audio cards ] all worked as soon as plugged in. Oddly, only the logitech would work with WinXP media center. ]

so use your yahoo / msn account through ekiga and have the features Skype refuses to support on Linux, and do it without having to pay for full features that Skype will charge you for and not deliver.

[ I just have to poke the Skype dev team for a lack of effort when there are free, open source, packages that offer what Skype won't. ]
Killer Bob
QUOTE(Jaqui @ Sat Apr 21 2007, 11:50) [snapback]385648[/snapback]
so use your yahoo / msn account through ekiga and have the features Skype refuses to support on Linux, and do it without having to pay for full features that Skype will charge you for and not deliver.


How do I use my msn account through ekiga?
trjonescp
Skype video for Linux! PLEASE.....
pkolmann
QUOTE(trjonescp @ Sun Sep 9 2007, 17:42) [snapback]439290[/snapback]

Skype video for Linux! PLEASE.....


It will come. REALLY!

Just hang on
Philipp
florianlohoff

I second the request for video - It was the only reason to try skype to see my newborn from work.

Flo
DStar
QUOTE(pkolmann @ Mon Sep 10 2007, 17:02) [snapback]439811[/snapback]

It will come. REALLY!

Just hang on
Philipp

and when will that be? we've been waiting forever already... the lack of webcam support is the only reason why i still have to use silly msn...
please get us hooked up with video as soon as it is somehow possible
Raul Liive
We are always working hard on making Skype better for all users and adding new features to it.

We are working based on it on all three platforms. We have not forgotten Linux and as you see we have released 1.4 lately which has many improvements in comparison with 1.3.

We are continuing to work hard on Skype for Linux to make it better and include more features there.

We will keep you updated when we have something new for you through our blogs and this forum.
prayingmantis
hmm, now that's funny. In my recollection there were 2 posts from Berkus earlier this morning telling us that video would be available for us in 2007 and that working prototypes are already there, but he was not allowed to post screenshots.

Why was that being deleted ?! Or is it just the endless waiting that is now resulting in cerebral degeneration and it was all an illusion?
berkus
QUOTE(prayingmantis @ Thu Sep 20 2007, 15:48) [snapback]443346[/snapback]

hmm, now that's funny. In my recollection there were 2 posts from Berkus earlier this morning telling us that video would be available for us in 2007 and that working prototypes are already there, but he was not allowed to post screenshots.

Why was that being deleted ?! Or is it just the endless waiting that is now resulting in cerebral degeneration and it was all an illusion?


It was a dream. Only a dream.
howtoforums.net
QUOTE(Killer Bob @ Sat Apr 21 2007, 15:13) [snapback]385705[/snapback]

How do I use my msn account through ekiga?


That also jumped out at me and here is what i could dig up...haven't tried it yet....its not MSN messenger rather Windows messenger puke.png ...
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Connecting....1_to_ekiga.net

and some more general info:
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_prog..._with_Ekiga_%3F

--
JB
http://howtoforums.net
cubetriangle
I'm so sad skype for linux doesn't have video support. Please add it. I use Mac OSX, but I may be getting another computer with linux and I'd like to be able to communicate with my friends and family with video chat from my linux machine. sadsmile.png
Gregor A.
QUOTE(berkus @ Thu Sep 20 2007, 15:35) [snapback]443395[/snapback]

It was a dream. Only a dream.


And my dream is a little more information from you about video in skype for linux.

Things, that we don't know...

Such like a roadmap wasntme.png
dukeinlondon
One thing that would be nice is that since the linux dev team will have to test the service with a few webcams, they ask the skype shop to sell the best ones with a mention that it works with skype for linux, restricting to the distros they tried if commercially necessary...

It's so complicate to link information about webcam working with linux with the descriptions available on the web shops....

And some sort of indicative roadmap would be fantastic.
berkus
QUOTE(Gregor A. @ Fri Sep 21 2007, 07:21) [snapback]443590[/snapback]

And my dream is a little more information from you about video in skype for linux.

Things, that we don't know...

Such like a roadmap wasntme.png


This is my dream, too.
ptr0
I've tried ekiga and wengo as you previously mentioned and I think that they weren't even worth mentioning. I can't even make one good call on ekiga - because there are audio problems (video is quite ok- not excellent but ok)- after 1 minute 30 sek program hangs up. In wengo my camera doesn't work at all, and video quality is very bad ( I can't see clearly the face of person I'm calling with) but audio quality is ok (not excellent). In windows' version of skype audio and video quality is excellent. For linux users there's only one solution now- install windows and skype ! sadsmile.png but it's not satisfactory for them I suppose. For me it's no problem. But for person I want to talk with, it is. sadsmile.png sadsmile.png sadsmile.png sadsmile.png how to convince him to turn on windows? (he has it installed, but doesn't use)
numbed
no news is good news .. am i wrong? .. probably ... possibly ... or simply not?


likwid
QUOTE(Raul Liive @ Thu Sep 20 2007, 13:38) [snapback]443341[/snapback]

We are always working hard on making Skype better for all users and adding new features to it.


No offense but nobody's seems to be working hard on the linux version. The last version included microphone audio leveling which is important, animated emoticons, which aren't (unless you're 14), and bug fixes. It'll soon be two years since the windows version introduced video.





Martin Swift
QUOTE(ptr0 @ Fri Sep 21 2007, 13:13) [snapback]443697[/snapback]

I can't even make one good call on ekiga - because there are audio problems (video is quite ok- not excellent but ok)- after 1 minute 30 sek program hangs up. [...] For me it's no problem. But for person I want to talk with, it is. sadsmile.png sadsmile.png sadsmile.png sadsmile.png how to convince him to turn on windows?

So I take it you tried Ekiga for windows. The Windows port is still a beta, but if you experience problems, please report them to the Ekiga bugzilla.
Vantskruv
I really want Skype with video-support as soon as possible. I've converted to linux since spring, and I'm using it everyday. My brother will come home soon and the only way to communicate with him when he is at home is via videotalk. Please make it hurry!

Anyway, which cameras is recommended for Linux? Anyone knows?
Andypoo
My favourite camera for Linux at the moment is the Philips SPC 900NC.

Stable drivers included in the kernel (thus works out of the box), very good quality, great filters. Manual focus for super-close objects, but infinity focus for objects beyond 15cm.

Andypoo.
Vantskruv
Thanks Andypoo!

Anyone else knows of other candidates with Linux-support? I like to compare and check prices and quality of hardware before I choose which to have.
This could be a good thread for checking different compatible cameras with Skype on Linux.
nick_spacca
QUOTE(Vantskruv @ Sun Sep 30 2007, 17:34) [snapback]446807[/snapback]
Thanks Andypoo!

Anyone else knows of other candidates with Linux-support? I like to compare and check prices and quality of hardware before I choose which to have.
This could be a good thread for checking different compatible cameras with Skype on Linux.


http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/cameras.html

Here you can find most of the supported camera (v4l/v4l2) with the image quality on linux! Best results are with UVC camera (most recent ones, at the bottom of the list).
Personally I tried the Hercules Webcam Deluxe and it works fine but ONLY with v4l support, and I guess(hope?) skype (such as the most of the new video-software) will work on v4l2 standard (this is also a question for skype4linux team wink.png ).
Now I'm also testing a funny 'Sweety Cam' (dog) by LDLC and I have to admit that -even if is not the best webcam I have seen- it works so fine under linux, for really a little price!

Have fun
nick
Andypoo
Skype will support both v4l and v4l2 devices. My recommendation at the moment is on pwc and gspca based cameras based on personal experiences.

Andy.
Fenix-TX
QUOTE(Andypoo @ Mon Oct 1 2007, 09:26) [snapback]447013[/snapback]

Skype will support both v4l and v4l2 devices. My recommendation at the moment is on pwc and gspca based cameras based on personal experiences.

Andy.

And what about Logitech Quickcam Messenger?
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Logitech     212     0x046d         0x08da         QuickCam Messenger       Brutus     zc030x     Tas5130c     Yes       Jpeg     spca5xx/LE     ****
frodon
QUOTE(Fenix-TX @ Mon Oct 1 2007, 10:33) [snapback]447031[/snapback]

And what about Logitech Quickcam Messenger?
I own logitech quickcam communicate STX which worked out of the box on my ubuntu feisty fawn computer.
Logitech Quickcam series are in general well supported.
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