spacemarc_
Thu Jan 5 2006, 20:24
hi, when 2.0 Linux version will be out?
xboxrulz_
Fri Jan 6 2006, 00:04
it will be out when it's ready.
xboxrulz
jarekLuberek_
Fri Jan 6 2006, 02:06
[quote=xboxrulz]it will be out when it's ready.
xboxrulz[/quote]
Hardly true. Skype 1.x has been out for quite some time now and it is clearly not ready.
/jarek
xboxrulz_
Fri Jan 6 2006, 02:12
well, it was ready for OSS use only. I have not yet have problems with OSS as a matter of fact. It's just the software-mixing that really irritated me. Yet, I triumphed and fixed that problem. Therefore, I don't mind when Skype 2 comes out late.
Yet, getting more official releases/fixes would be great!
xboxrulz
Si_
Fri Jan 6 2006, 04:18
[quote=xboxrulz]well, it was ready for OSS use only. I have not yet have problems with OSS as a matter of fact. It's just the software-mixing that really irritated me. Yet, I triumphed and fixed that problem. Therefore, I don't mind when Skype 2 comes out late.
Yet, getting more official releases/fixes would be great!
xboxrulz[/quote]
Which unfortunately never worked for me.
artsdsp always cause skype to segfault. Same is true for aoss wrapper.
I've been waiting for alsa support for quite some time now.
It's extremely annoying when I missed calls because I was listening to music, even if I saw skype ringing, I had to stop the music, in the case of amarok I even have to close it, then pick up the phone. That's a hell lot of hassle.
I know alsa support is just around the corner, but my patience is already growing thin.
xboxrulz_
Fri Jan 6 2006, 04:57
well, surf around the forum. I posted a fix for the aoss problem.
when I talked about OSS, I was talking about just having OSS and with all programs shut off, I have no voice issues.
xboxrulz
pkolmann
Fri Jan 6 2006, 10:17
[quote=xboxrulz]when I talked about OSS, I was talking about just having OSS and with all programs shut off, I have no voice issues.
xboxrulz[/quote]
That the reason I bought a USB Headset. With this, I have an extra Sound device and it doesn't get in the way of my normal sound hardware.
Philipp
vmicho_
Sat Jan 7 2006, 22:56
QUOTE(Si)
QUOTE(xboxrulz)
well, it was ready for OSS use only. I have not yet have problems with OSS as a matter of fact. It's just the software-mixing that really irritated me. Yet, I triumphed and fixed that problem. Therefore, I don't mind when Skype 2 comes out late.
Yet, getting more official releases/fixes would be great!
xboxrulz
Which unfortunately never worked for me.
artsdsp always cause skype to segfault. Same is true for aoss wrapper.
I've been waiting for alsa support for quite some time now.
It's extremely annoying when I missed calls because I was listening to music, even if I saw skype ringing, I had to stop the music, in the case of amarok I even have to close it, then pick up the phone. That's a hell lot of hassle.
I know alsa support is just around the corner, but my patience is already growing thin.
This problem is well known. However I don't have it for quite long time as my card (some integrated onboard shit AC97) has got 4 HW channels (and many cards today) which is really necessary today as linux doesnt have any "in-kernel" software mix (and so when I buy a new comp, I look really if that card has got multiple hw channels).
But anyway, you should maybe try Jack sound daemon or Esd (I used esd when I had single channel card). They both have wrappers that may work.
jamesinthebox_
Sun Jan 8 2006, 10:55
I dont see how any Linux system at this time having webcam support for a 2.0 -- lots talk about they have a cam working but dont anything for sure in any distro.
I think Linux will need a Application Program Interface (a.k.a. API) like DirectX before anything happens for sure.
Plus most webcam driver are made for Windows or Mac.
I hear something about GStreamer working on that but dont know for sure.
Most things dont work that good in linux anyways.
I been there 2 or 3 times and I found out most Debian Systems work real nice.
Good Thing was Xandros had skype bundle in the OS.
Hope to see more of that in the future.
ryanvalor_
Sun Jan 8 2006, 14:03
there is already something called v4l
no, linux dont need crap like directX.
directX was imho created because ms was to lazy to read opengl specs.
for sound there is alsa. taking oss was a bad idea. so maybe thats stopping the dev now.
for graphics there is the X api with opengl and dri besides.
for video there is V4L, which is working great, amsn and kopete already implemented a lot in this, or gnomemeeting.
for GUI there is QT e.g. and if you want even more, desktop integration, then there is KDE and stuff.
linux is opensource. you can download source from a prog, look how it manages different tasks, and learn from it. because there is a lot of packets in linux world, which are giving you a lot of functions, you just have to use them.
MerlinElMago_
Sun Jan 8 2006, 15:21
Yes, but mind that including opensource code into a proprietary application means violating the GPL terms, so Skype programmes will have to ...
1 - Programm it on their own...
2 - Make the app opensource (which in my opinion is OK as long as the CODEC (which is really a Skype development - I think

) remains closed.
What would happen if Skype goes opensource?
That would be only benefits. The whole community would help programming all that king of stuff that we demand day after day (i.e. Alsa support).
Unfotunately I think that Skype will pick option 1 and we'll have to wait for updates during months and months....
Greets
Merlin
xboxrulz_
Sun Jan 8 2006, 18:25
Linux does have an an API, but it doesn't have a name. The components for the current API include:
XOrg
OpenGL/SDL
OpenAL (which ALSA is needed)
Webcam support for Linux (not Skype for Linux, just Linux) has been here since at least 2003. It was under the Video4Linux.
xboxrulz
spegru_
Tue Jan 10 2006, 14:54
That's right. Video4Linux (AKA v4L) is available now.
You can use it for Webcams with spplicatiosns such as MOTV.
Many well known webcams are supported by linux drivers also including most of the Logitech and Philips range.
A bit of a nause to install perhaps (find the driver, compile it for your distro etc), but that's the sort of thing the commuity could help with I think - anmd no need to worry about GPL etc
hcostelha_
Wed Jan 11 2006, 18:28
Just my 2cents: if someone plans to use V4L, use V4L2.
pastyr_
Mon Jan 23 2006, 17:49
"Just my 2cents: if someone plans to use V4L, use V4L2."
It depends on the webcam. Some prefer V4L and some V4L2

(e.g. my webcam does not work with V4L2 at all but works fine with V4L)
pastyr_
Mon Jan 23 2006, 17:50
"Just my 2cents: if someone plans to use V4L, use V4L2."
It depends on the webcam. Some prefer V4L and some V4L2

(e.g. my webcam does not work with V4L2 at all but works fine with V4L)
hcostelha_
Mon Jan 23 2006, 18:08
QUOTE(pastyr)
"Just my 2cents: if someone plans to use V4L, use V4L2."
It depends on the webcam. Some prefer V4L and some V4L2

(e.g. my webcam does not work with V4L2 at all but works fine with V4L)
Ok, but V4L2 is the future, and probably you should contact/help your camera driver developer, since I think it is not that difficult/different to make the driver v4l2 compliant.
rafaelbola_
Fri Jan 27 2006, 01:22
if the code is not free what we should do is use openwengo, which is gpl
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