hypnosmd
Tue Jun 9 2009, 14:27
Will skype have push notification on iphone when os 3 is released on 6/17/09?
jdmbugeye
Wed Jun 10 2009, 00:35
I highly doubt it...I am currently running os 3.0 and no apps out right now except for AP News has push notification which you need a promo code in order to download. If a moderator sees this I hope they pass it along so they develop it for this app. Also I had an issue using skype with 3.0 got an error saying you could not use it...
deftdrummer
Mon Jun 15 2009, 00:33
I am about to make a major decision if Skype with push notifications can be implemented effectively on the iphone, in that I will cancel my AT&T service. I can live off Wi-Fi alone, just use coffee shops and hot spots to make calls!
I tried this a few years back with the Sony Mylo, but its connection latency was just terrible so it didn't make a realistic replacement to a regular line. Now the Skype app is out, and if push notifications allow you to answer calls we will be golden.
As it stands iphone 2.2.1 software will still allow the Skype app to ring even while in sleep mode. Look at it this way: Skype for iphone will only get better with 3.0.
PDE
Wed Jun 17 2009, 11:42
I HOPE they will figure something out for incoming calls -- that would be a killer app. Unfortunately, a lot of people would also stop making cell phone calls then and that would be bad for cell phone business...hard to say!
Let's hope something changes with 3.0....
Neo707
Thu Jun 18 2009, 16:00
For the time beeing Skype on the iPhone is a nice gimmick.
But for it to be of real use push-notification service NEEDS to be implemented since nobody can have Skype running 24/7 on their iPhones nor is it possible to run Skype in the background without 'jailbreaking' the device (which I DO NOT recommend).
Is there someone at Skype with some information on this important issue ?
Murray+Sophia
Thu Jun 18 2009, 18:41
I'm anxiously waiting for it too
John Picker
Fri Jun 19 2009, 22:30
Truphone already has notification for Iphone 3.0 and it is up and running. Would have thought Skype would have been as fast... hopefully not too far behind. Would be nice if they would post something
deftdrummer
Sat Jun 20 2009, 19:26
I saw that, but I have a weird situation now with owning an iphone not bound to any network. Its somewhere between an ipod touch and an iphone, and I'm not sure what app to use, truphone for ipod touch or for the iphone? I currently do not have a phone number other than the Skype to go number. Has anyone tried Truphone with push services?
Goldndoodle
Sun Jun 21 2009, 16:11
That is EXACTLY what I did for my daughter with my iPhone 3G. I upgraded to a 3GS on Friday, I gave her the 3G without AT&T service. She uses it in WiFi around the house - so we call it her WiFone. I setup Skype for her and she loves that! The inability to get voicemail right from the phone is a bit of a problem, but she is quickly getting use to receiving an email from Skype, then going to her Macbook to check the voicemail.
Hopefully the next update to Skype for iPhone will not only include Push Notifications but also include the ability to check voicemail right from the iPhone. She would also like the ability to assign photos to Skype Out contacts as well.
jirwin
Sun Jun 21 2009, 21:07
This is definitely a key feature for Skype on the iPhone. I would love to hear a Skype representative responding and letting us know a) if this is a feature in development and b) if Skype currently has an ETA for its release.
NeuTRinO
Mon Jun 22 2009, 08:31
Hmm... iPhone OS 3 is out for few days already, but Skype still don't support push notifications for incoming calls( That's very weird.
I don't think that even with notifications implemented Skype can replace GSM voice calls. Because of notification delivery times are not guaranteed. Like it sometimes happens with mobileMe push updates - I mean sometimes it takes a while for data to update. So caller can cancel call even before the receiver will know a incoming call.
got2trythis
Mon Jun 22 2009, 13:22
You do not have to go to the PC or Mac to check voicemail. Just dial Skype ToGo number and you will be able to check voicemail, assuming you got one setup.
No Limit Dave
Tue Jun 23 2009, 03:46
What do you press when you dial in and voicemail answers? I've never been able to do it not I have found the instructions posted anywhere.
NicolasYarosz
Tue Jun 23 2009, 10:12
What do you press when you dial in and voicemail answers? I've never been able to do it not I have found the instructions posted anywhere.
I thought I had a problem as well because it went right into the dial out features of Skype ToGo. But the real problem was that I didn't have any unchecked voicemails on my skype account. If there are no voicemails, the skype togo menu will not prompt you. If you do have voicemails waiting to be heard, the skype togo menu will prompt you to listen to them.
kd5pbo
Wed Jun 24 2009, 01:44
+1 for push.
For other services, Palringo will come out with push sometime later this week.
number1kgfan
Wed Jun 24 2009, 03:27
I REALLY hope Skype gets push notification. That would really make it a KILLER app!
deftdrummer
Wed Jun 24 2009, 13:20
The inability to be pushed an incoming call would really put a damper on my Skype plans. I was looking forward to iphone 3.0 allowing much more capability but I guess I set my hopes too high. Hopefully Apple can get their push service working properly for incoming calls.
Oh and voice mail within the app is a given. Skype was pretty on the ball with updates in the past, so I wonder if its on Apple's end this time around.
kd5pbo
Wed Jun 24 2009, 23:04
Apple does take a while to get updates through the review process. I've a feeling they're swamped right now due to the release of push.
It'd be nice to have some word from the Skype folks, though.
lane3128
Thu Jun 25 2009, 15:10
It is not Apple that's holding this back push notifications are up and running and they are pushed in under a second. Skype has to implement this on their end. It's their choice to do this or not. The only problem would be AT&T not allowing it for Skype because of competition but I don't see that happening.
deftdrummer
Thu Jun 25 2009, 18:41
It is not Apple that's holding this back push notifications are up and running and they are pushed in under a second. Skype has to implement this on their end. It's their choice to do this or not. The only problem would be AT&T not allowing it for Skype because of competition but I don't see that happening.
Well lane, the problem isn't that push notifications aren't working. It's that Skype hasn't updated their app in a long time. Simple as that. My guess would be that they are really trying to make a big improvement, much the same way it has done with the current version.
After all, they have a lot to implement this time around such as voice mail and push notifications, not to mention bug fixes and a better contact management system. It just sucks to not know if the Skype team is even working hard on this project.
hypnosmd
Thu Jun 25 2009, 20:05
I posted this message to get everybody talking. My problem is at work the bldg has terrible att reception and free wifi so push notification is a must as well as VM on the iphone directly. Skype customer service sucks no response for days. Then when ask about the above they can not comment not even about looking into push notification. This is LAME.
Neo707
Fri Jun 26 2009, 11:51
How can it be that there´s no official feedback from Skype on this somewhat important issue ? Regarding that there are allready more than 20 posts here and who knows how many elsewhere from people urging Skype to implement it. A short answer would be sufficient just to inform users that they either are or aren´t working on it.
On second thought giving us a time frame would be nice too.
deftdrummer
Sun Jun 28 2009, 08:54
The funny thing is that there are already apps out that that partially implement Skype services even better than the current Skype app itself. For example, Nimbuzz is more of an instant messaging app than anything, but it allows for Skype functionality. The odd part is that Nimbuzz will actually send you an email with your voice mail in .mov format - something not even Skype has implemented yet.
I agree that this is lame that Skype won't even weigh in on the issue. At the same time, they came up with a pretty decent first run on the iphone, so I suspect they are making this version that much better. However, my patience are limited and VOIP services are springing up everywhere for the iphone so its really just a matter of time. If Skype wants my continued business they ought to kick it into high gear in the very near future.
damiii
Mon Jun 29 2009, 18:03
This weekend i have tried IM+ with skype but after 15 minutes my account goes offline!
I have search and i found it:
"Please note that due to technical restrictions on Skype servers, your Skype account remains connected only for 15 minutes after you have closed IM+"
Please fix it!!
deftdrummer
Tue Jun 30 2009, 02:45
Well, Skype just released an update and I have to say, I am happy but a little underwhelmed. It's been how long since developers had 3.0 in their hands??
The update includes multiple language support files, and more importantly the ability to listen to your voice mail. Also, there is now support for SMS using Skype credit.
Still no push notifications, and still no option to delete previous chats.
The app overall is improved, but still is a bit laggy and buggy, although placing actual calls is notably improved; specifically it doesn't ring out of the external speaker for a ring or two while initializing a call, and there is no annoying skype noise when dialing out...just the normal ringing tone.
What are your guys's thoughts?
dougdilg
Tue Jun 30 2009, 03:07
At last. Voicemail feature is interesting since it is located in the History section and appears to be separated individually by call, similar to the iPhone Voicemail function.
iPhone OS 3.0
Tue Jun 30 2009, 03:43
Okay, so we now have an update ( version 1.1.0 ) Big deal. While it is great that the stability has improved and I am now able to receive my voicemail; I still want to know where my Push Notification is. Come on Skype. I have been a loyal customer for several years and you have always done a great job. Since Skype has known about the available features of the IPhone 3.0 OS for some time, it makes me wonder why they would bother sending out an update that does not utilize these new technologies? As some have posted previously, at least give us an idea about what your plans are for the IPhone. Can we expect push notification? Are you bound by contract not to provide these services as they might compete for AT&T revenue? Something, anything. Lastly, I shall end my ranting with this. I hope that the "powers that be" within Skype read these posts and listen to their customers. Gaps in quality service are what lead to new companies and products. If you wish to keep your edge, you might want to think about informing your customer base about the future of your product.
Murray+Sophia
Tue Jun 30 2009, 03:49
I am happy but a little underwhelmed.
I couldn't say it better myself, thank you. The new Skype is a slight improvement, yet it's push I am really dying for. It is what makes an IM system useful, imo, and is vital to implement. Please, Skype, do something, surely it can't be THAT difficult?
PS and while you're at it, please make Skype for iPhone available in Canada... it's soo annoying to have to sign in with a USA account just to download it
Guru74
Tue Jun 30 2009, 09:16
I was very excited... for about 3 seconds, until I've seen the release notes. And now I am just very very dissapointed. This is what should have been released exactly a year ago. Last year it took AKAIR forever until a buggy -almost unusable- version was released, no comments or information from Skype, just like now. I pay a fortune for Skype-In, but this way treating customers is just miserable.
Apple's plans for push notification is known for ofer a year and the SDK and beta 3.0 have been out for a long time, so where's the problem? And why absolutely no feedback? The minimum I'd expect would be pushed chat messages and pushed voicemail notification. But with this speed of development I would say it will take about another year untill we can see that (working)
Oh yes, what about chat emoticons? In two years?
And voice over cell network? If AT&T doesn't like it, why does the rest of the world have to suffer under that? AT&T is not the only provider, there are many others that noticed that the money is not in voice services but data. Swisscom for example is offering a new unlimited data plan starting this week. I don't have AT&T and I didn't sign to obey their rules.
Come on Skype, at least communicate with us (communication is your business, isn't it?)

Tell us if I can expect any of the wished features in the near future or if I should change to another service.
ruben74
Tue Jun 30 2009, 10:15
Having worked for the last 13 years in the area of Management Communication / Marketing for some of the largest global blue chip companies, I am completely stunned with the current policies/practices of Skype Management with regards to their (non existent) channels of communication with their consumer base.
Back before Skype was bought by Ebay in 2005 they seemed to have a much better regard for their customers. These days it almost seems like a blanket gag/suppression policy exists across the company. This achieves nothing other than alienating their already frustrated customers.
Just because this sort of policy works for Apple, doesn't mean it's a suitable or successful approach for every company. Apple enjoys a very unique position in terms of their almost fanatical user base, Skype has far to many competitors waiting in the wings to snatch market share.
From a little investigation it seems that Skype is currently in process of, or has recently recruited a new Director of Consumer Marketing. We can only hope that one of this persons responsibilities will be to establish good communication policies to better inform us end users of what the hell is going on behind the corporate doors.
In my professional opinion, whoever is responsible for the current woeful communication standards that Skype has embraced should be sacked immediately. The amount of damage this policy has caused to Skype's reputation and the brand loyalty of it's customers is immeasurable.
I guess we can only hope that somewhere in the near future this once stunning concept and brand can be pulled back into shape.
Fingers crossed.
:/
Glyn Williams
Tue Jun 30 2009, 18:53
I am also disappointed there are no push notifications in this update. I am astonished that Skype have not implemented this.
I suggest that people who feel the same way make their objection known. Use the App Store review system to flag this as an issue. Perhaps it will put some pressure on Skype to address the problem.
Neo707
Tue Jun 30 2009, 20:37
Just like the previous posters I am unbelievably disappointed, not only by the missing push notifications in the recent software update but also by the unwillingness of Skype to communicate with their customers.
I will look into other VOIP services available for iPhone because at this point I feel the whole discussion is becoming more and more ridiculous.
I suggest Skype takes a closer look at their respective communication policies because also imo their are causing major damage to their reputation.
Guru74
Tue Jun 30 2009, 20:51
I suggest that people who feel the same way make their objection known. Use the App Store review system to flag this as an issue. Perhaps it will put some pressure on Skype to address the problem.
Wishfull thinking... That wouldn't put any pressure since they obviously couldn't care less about customer feedback. This thread has been here for 3 weeks and not a single comment from Skype and now this dissapointing "update", how ignorant is that? The App doesn't even have the "iPhone OS 3.0 tested" label, which I thought is required by now...
There are only two threads about this topic, so there must be a Skype official reading this, or is this forum completely unmoderated? Why is there no statement? Why are we completely ignored? I just can't believe how this company can absolutely lack of its actual business: communication
Btw WORD @ ruben74
deftdrummer
Wed Jul 1 2009, 04:02
With the rapid rate of deteriorated customer service values and corporate communication it would honestly not surprise me if Skype filed for bankruptcy sometime in the next month in an upset of Enron proportions.
Something is clearly not working on the corporate level (or developer for that matter).
One could only hope someone grabs the helm before this ship runs aground.
kd5pbo
Thu Jul 2 2009, 05:27
+1 for communication from Skype.
I'm not holding my breath for push, though. Like I said above, the way Skype works is very decentralized. From what I understand (I'm not an iPhone dev, to be fair) push requires a server to, well, push messages. Either they'd have to include it in the next version of their software (read: major issues for the first few days at least), or they'd have to run a push server (read: non-free client).
There are, however, a few things they could add that would make it a nicer app, like the ability to send/receive pictures, SkypeMe mode (Please), or the ability to sort our contact list by status.
What we'd all like that would be quite easy to do is get word from the Skype Developers about what's going on.
KingAtRock
Thu Jul 2 2009, 09:55
I too was disappointed by their current update.. no push.. dropped the ball. But to not even communicate with the loyal skype community is sad. 3 weeks and not a single response from skype.. I got news for you skype i remember a time when it was either skype or google talk, you excelled while they stalled, we chose you. Now you're stalling.. and with no communication we're all itching for the next skype if that's what it takes to get simple communication, oh yeah and push.
Glyn Williams
Thu Jul 2 2009, 10:39
+1 for communication from Skype.
I'm not holding my breath for push, though. Like I said above, the way Skype works is very decentralized. From what I understand (I'm not an iPhone dev, to be fair) push requires a server to, well, push messages. Either they'd have to include it in the next version of their software (read: major issues for the first few days at least), or they'd have to run a push server (read: non-free client).
If you look on the App Store. The application IM+ already supports push notifications from Skype!
If Skype has run out of EBay cash and needs to fund a server - they could charge for a Skype app with push.
kd5pbo
Thu Jul 2 2009, 20:33
If you look on the App Store. The application IM+ already supports push notifications from Skype!
If Skype has run out of EBay cash and needs to fund a server - they could charge for a Skype app with push.
Skype's protocol is pretty closed. To run an unofficial skype client, either they had to have done a lot of reverse engineering (which a Chinese team was reported to have done a while back, with limited success), or they somewhere have a server with a lot of bandwidth running a seperate instance of Skype for each logged on user, and push the messages of that to the phone. Possible, but the server load must be incredible. A third possibility is that there's some collaboration between the developers of IM+ and the Skype team, but that seems unlikely, as well.
From what I've gathered, the Skype network works a lot like the Gnutella network. Some clients serve as mini servers and aid in routing info and arranging calls. If two clients can communicate directly, the miniservers will arrange that, and nobody has to process the data sent across except the two endpoints. If one or both are firewalled, the data is bounced around until it gets to its destination. It's not like IRC in which a message is sent to a server and the server sends it on to the recipient.
Pushed notifications would be nice, sure, but in my opinion it's more understandable for Skype to not have them than the myriad of other IM clients out there.
[Disclamer: This is all speculation]
Glyn Williams
Thu Jul 2 2009, 21:18
Skype's protocol for voice is closed. But that's not the issue.
But there are plenty of third-party iPhone apps which support Skype IM text chat. IM+, Nimbuzz, Fring and others. IM+ is the first to support push notification for Skype instant messaging on the iPhone.
Skype's own app can only receive an IM message if it is actually running.
But with IM+ and push turned on, I can receive Skype IMs, when running other applications. Apple's push system was designed for precisely this type of application.
So if a 3rd party can implement push notifications for Skype, it is not unreasonable for Skype to do the same.
Guru74
Sat Jul 4 2009, 19:02
Wow, it's really amazing how we just get ignored

Does anyone believe that no Skype official ever reads this? Yeah sure...
So they read this and think, WTF, who cares? Better not give any answers, otherwise more questions will come up. Why can't the mob just shut up?
gammal
Tue Jul 7 2009, 18:28
Just contributing to the nagging. I hope someone will read this and do something about it. I've been a paying customer for years, and I lost track of how many people I've introduced to Skype who are now also paying customers. The two platforms I use most of the time are Linux & iPhone, and Skype support on both hasn't been as good as we would expect. It's time to do something!
JuggleNuts
Fri Jul 10 2009, 13:02
+1
Its amazing to witness how companies can be so unresponsive. Skype without push (or the ability to receive video, type with a horizontal keyboard, etc) is a neat gimmick, but really nothing more. Skype, to the massive population of iPhone users, is saying, "We're slow and don't understand your needs" -- good idea!
Guru74
Fri Jul 10 2009, 19:00
Just PM'ed a mod, so lets hope for the best
Murray+Sophia
Sat Jul 11 2009, 05:35
Better still, respond to this thread:
http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2009/06/sk...ne_out_now.htmlQUOTE (peterparkes on 8th July)
And to all of you asking for push notifications, please keep your comments coming. Your feedback helps us prioritise things
So, if you want push, do reply to that blog and make your voice heard!
Guru74
Sat Jul 11 2009, 23:11
Well, it's obvious that push is the most wanted feature. So how long do we have to keep nagging until we at least get a timeframe? If we don't keep asking will just other features be added? I still don't get it
ktracy
Sun Jul 12 2009, 15:46
I'm sure Skype developers are working on push notifications. However, with such a small amount of developers, it is difficult to release the notifications so quickly with quality. Skype has the problem of reliability: They cannot release software that only works some of the time. Because the application is used for many business purposes as well, when it is released it must be polished and functional.
Sort of like Apple's methodology!
Be patient, I'm sure, although I too am very anxious.
Axel7
Mon Jul 13 2009, 19:08
I can't believe that there are so many people, writing that Skype is not reliable, that they are not responsive, support is bad,.... and only because 1 feature is missing.
Keep in mind that Skype is not an expensive software, that there is a lot of good skype software already out in the market, that most software companies avoid to announce timeframes when new features will we includes because they want to be serious.
So please be patient and be more grateful for this excellent piece of software. I'am using Skype for years on a Mac and for me it is still the best VOIP Software that is not based on SIP.
gammal
Mon Jul 13 2009, 21:09
Well, if you've been using the Linux version (still stuck at 2.0.0.72) you'd have a different opinion. I like Skype too and rely on it frequently, but when calls consistently drop (on iPhone) after a few minutes unless you switch airplane mode on you gotta get your voice heard. Also, no one is hurrying Skype developers or asking them to release half-baked code, we're just telling them what features we'd like to see added to an app that we use and pay for. We don't want exact release dates, only a confirmation that they're working on said features.
Guru74
Sun Jul 19 2009, 01:08
Because the application is used for many business purposes as well, when it is released it must be polished and functional.
Yeah right, that's why the first version was so buggy
I contacted the moderator over a week ago - absolutely no reaction. I'm sorry, but that's pretty rude and arrogant. He couldn't even tell me that it's not in his hands or that he has nothing to do with it. I was just ignored, just as we all are in this thread.
But whatever, they don't have to bother anymore. Fring has just released the new version with push (Nimbuzz as well). Fring allows incoming chat as push message, and when someone tries to call you get this message:
"*Name of caller*: Hi I tried you calling VIA fring"
The caller (via Skype) gets following message:
"User is not available to take your call. We have sent him/her a notification about your call.
Thanks,
The fring team"
Nice so far
tuan2
Sun Jul 26 2009, 06:32
Fring doesn't have speaker phone, no dial pad during calls-I have problem with this b4 since I have Grandcentral so I couldn't answer any call. It has since changed with Google Voice- Fring also doesn't push voice call though.
You can run Skype in the background on iPhone (must be hacked since Apple doesn't allow multitasking) My Skype calls went though fine in the background-it just ring but that all that I need to switch back to it to answer calls. Just have to keep it from locking.
Yeah right, that's why the first version was so buggy
I contacted the moderator over a week ago - absolutely no reaction. I'm sorry, but that's pretty rude and arrogant. He couldn't even tell me that it's not in his hands or that he has nothing to do with it. I was just ignored, just as we all are in this thread.
But whatever, they don't have to bother anymore. Fring has just released the new version with push (Nimbuzz as well). Fring allows incoming chat as push message, and when someone tries to call you get this message:
"*Name of caller*: Hi I tried you calling VIA fring"
The caller (via Skype) gets following message:
"User is not available to take your call. We have sent him/her a notification about your call.
Thanks,
The fring team"
Nice so far

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